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We will counsel you on your secret issues.
This is Hello, the National Competition on Issues.
(Applauding)
I'll introduce our guest today.
She's the front-woman of KBS.
Please welcome Anchorwoman Hwang Jung-min!
And here are Clazziquai's Alex and Horan!
(Clazziquai's Horan and Alex)
Hwang Jung-min here is hosting KBS FM, is it?
Yes, KBS FM Parade, for 18 years.
She helps so many people with their issues on the radio.
Actually, while watching this program,
I felt like something was missing from it.
To talk about marriage and stuff,
a woman is needed here, I thought.
(Our six-year host at risk?)
- We can do it together! - Like when you're hosting the radio program,
with your outstanding empathy,
please share your helpful comments with us.
Clazziquai, what does counseling means to you?
I always listen to people's problems, and at the end...
- I get angry. - You put yourself in their shoes, right?
In the third person's perspective, when I see...
people repeating their problematic behaviors,
I get angry sometimes.
- I think you'll get angry a lot today. - Yes, I mean, really...
When I was here the last time,
the camera didn't catch it, but...
my mouth looked strange, somewhat revealing.
I heard our producers had much difficulties when editing your footage.
- Be careful, please. - Yes, I have to be.
Before today's show begins,
last week's winner story was "Why are you living with me?"
While having a meal, he says, "Let's make babies!"
Even while watching TV, he says, "How about making babies with me?"
He's not even interested in our babies...
and leaves me to all of the housekeeping.
I have a golden rule, which is...
a man never goes into the kitchen.
For seven days a week, my husband gets drunk...
and brings guests home.
Did your husband change a little?
Yes, the biggest change is...
when I'm taking the trash out, my husband said,
"It's heavy, let me take that out."
and took it by himself.
But, the last time when we were here,
he saw the husband with fish issues,
he suddenly bought a fish and a hermit crab...
- and brought them home. - He bought what?
I was inspired by him that day and thought, that's it!
It's a guppy fish, it produces a lot of eggs!
I bought it, hoping...
my wife would be persuaded while looking at it.
So you're still nagging about having babies?
The issue has got bigger.
With being on this program as a momentum,
you will see some positive changes, I hope.
Will this story win again this week?
I'm looking forward to it.
The winner is granted with a present worth a thousand dollars!
Let's look at this story, "Am I your housemaid??"
Hello.
I'm living with my husband, who is exactly like me.
I've been married for five years.
Our names are the same,
our blood types are the same,
and even our looks are similar,
but one thing...
we totally disagree with each other is...
our tastes in food!
Because of our different tastes, my husband gained 10kg after getting married,
while I lost 10kg!
"Honey, soybean paste stew and seasoned spinach are ready!"
"Come, have a meal!"
"What are these terrible dishes?"
"I won't eat them! "Bring me roasted meat and ham!"
"Meat!"
Roasted meat and ham, it's no big deal, I can give him those.
But, he wants rice freshly cooked for every meal,
also soup and all the dishes!
I'm going crazy!
When my mom serves him a huge meal and says,
"Have this stir-fried noodles, help yourself!"
"Sorry, but I don't eat these," he says.
What is worse is...
"What is that smell?"
"Seasoned cucumber? Get rid of this now!"
"No vegetables on my meal table!"
"If you want vegetables, you eat it on the ground!"
What? I should eat on the ground?
Eventually, I put the cucumber dish on the ground,
and sadly had a meal by myself.
Hey, Am I your housemaid??
Eat what you're served, before I knock over the meal table!
The story ends here.
(Change your picky taste, honey!)
What do you think about the story?
What could be harder than difference in personalities...
is difference in tastes between a couple, I've heard.
Different tastes can cause so much trouble.
She's having issues during three mealtimes, everyday.
Our guest is here, please welcome!
(Our guest suffering from her husband's picky taste)
(Oh my goodness!)
(Skin and bone)
- She's so skinny! - Oh, no!
(Shin Ji-hyun)
- Please take off your shoes, and... - She is so skinny!
Oh my goodness!
Why are you so skinny?
Did you get this skinny after you married?
Why don't you weigh her here?
- Me? - Yes, please.
She's a genius at weighing people.
(Straight up)
(Lifted by one hand!)
Do you weigh 48kg?
No, I weigh 38kg.
Isn't that the weight of a fifth, sixth grader?
- Lifted her with one hand! - 38kg, at what age did you weigh that much?
(Right, you want to do this with me?)
When you were five?
Ouch!
What a fool, knowing you're going to get beaten!
(Always regretting after getting beaten)
Your husband really told you to eat vegetables on the ground?
When vegetables are on the meal table,
"Why do you serve this, knowing I don't eat it?" he says angrily.
Kimchi, especially, has a strong smell,
he treats it like a poison and makes me eat it on the ground.
He treats kimchi like a poison?
My husband only eats ham and meat for a meal.
- Ham and meat? - Yes. Even not one kind of ham...
Spam, sausages, things like that.
He needs at least three kinds of ham.
- He has three kinds of ham for a meal? - Yes, he does.
I have to serve freshly cooked rice, and soup...
should be of different kinds for each meal!
- So... - Wow, then...
Let's say he had ham, and some of it is left.
If you heat it up, would he eat that?
- No, he wouldn't. - Not even that?
Even when he likes ham so much?
- What about soup? - When I make him kimchi soup,
he takes out ham or meat...
or chunks of canned tuna from it.
He won't eat spicy beef stew if bought from the store.
He only eats the stew I made him by myself.
It takes quite long to cook the stew!
You cook the stew for only one meal?
I eat the leftovers, then I get tired of it and throw it out...
We would like to see your usual meal table, so we asked you to take a picture.
Let's see.
(Meal table for the husband)
- Separated tables!
(Totally different components)
You made it like this intentionally, right?
I don't believe this is real.
What a contrast!
The utensils for children, who are those for?
It's for our child.
I think those should be put on the table on the left!
It's not a meal table, it's a ham table.
What is the stew on the table?
That is spicy beef stew.
There are no ingredients in the stew!
It has so little ingredients, and just soup!
It's too much...
(Here is served ham, for three meals)
But...you said he eats a dish for only one meal, right?
He eats all of these? It looks like a huge meal.
If I don't serve like that, he thinks I didn't put much effort.
He only eats when the meal's huge.
One day, he went to Jeonju, and went into a restaurant,
and saw the 50 or 60 side dishes served there.
He should not have seen it.
Then he told me to make 20 or 30 of them.
Side dishes that many?
How can you serve that many without vegetables?
The dishes he likes are already fixed, right?
"I came home from work, can't you do this little thing for me?"
He says like that.
Then we start to fight, grab each other's hair...
You grab each other's hair?
He must've grabbed you by your hair.
We can't understand this situation, so let's meet the husband. Where are you?
Hello.
(The husband asking for freshly cooked meal dishes everyday)
He looks slimmer than we expected.
Would you stand up please?
- And turn around? - It's strange that he's not fat...
Looks good for someone who only eats ham.
Why do you insist for having ham for your meals?
People have different tastes in food, right?
- Yes, they do. - My wife likes vegetables, fruits...
things like that, while I like ham and meat.
I'm totally healthy only eating those, so...
If it's not rude, may I ask how old you are?
I'm 32.
Since you were young, you did...
(Gasped)
Now, wait a second...
Isn't it too harsh for him? You guys rumbling like that.
"Really? He is 32?"
Aren't you acting too surprised?
I myself was surprised a little bit, but...
I was trying to get past it...
Since when you were young, you constantly had ham?
Since when you were seven or eight?
When I was five, I was hospitalized for meningitis, and then discharged,
the doctor said to my father to feed me mostly meat for a year,
and my father followed it so blindly.
I ate only meat for a year, which made me like this.
So you're blaming this on your father?
Of course, my father made this huge mistake.
You don't eat vegetables at all?
No, I don't.
- At all. - What about ham with julienne potatoes?
Dishes like that, you wouldn't eat those, too?
I only eat ham...
- I pick ham from it. - How about vegetable sausages?
You don't eat those?
No, I don't. sausages with peppers in it, I don't eat them...
- Ham and other meats. - He's very definite with it.
- What about garlic ham? - I eat that.
- That's my favorite. - That just has a little bit of garlic added to it.
- Ham is ham though. - There's no chunks of garlic.
- Don't you go out to eat socially? - Yes.
What do you do when you eat out?
When I eat with my boss or other associates,
I just tell them straight up what I don't eat.
- Do you put down the kimchi? - No, of course not.
- Why do you do that at home? - Family is comfortable.
That's what's wrong.
What do you think about throwing food out?
Do you have to prepare such a large amount?
- You can just make a little bit. - I have a greed for ham.
Ham greed?
He won't eat it all, but there has to be a lot.
There has to be a lot on the table that I can see.
- Then it's good. - But you throw food out.
- Isn't it wasteful? - Yes. I think it's very wrong of me.
Yes. I think it's very wrong of me.
Then why?
(He admits it?)
When you were young,
I feel like your mother would have given you some vegetables...
because she knows her son shouldn't only eat meat.
No. No one ever forced me.
So did your mother make you a new dish with the rice and soup for ever meal?
- Every meal? - No, no.
- She didn't. - But once you got married, you have a new belief about that?
Where did such a strong belief come from?
I believe a wife should do for her husband as much as she loves him
I mean, if you love your wife...
If you love your wife, you can take the ham off the table and eat.
I wasn't able to think of that.
Do you have any intention of eating ham off the table?
- I don't at this point. - What?
- How does that make sense? - How can you make her put vegetable dishes down?
There's a huge misunderstanding with that.
Let's hear it.
I'm not telling her to put all vegetable dishes down and eat.
I really hate the smell of fermentation.
- Very ripe. - Deeply fermented.
If she puts that on the table when she knows I hate that smell,
I tell her to eat that on the floor.
Do you throw up?
No, I just hate the smell. I lose my appetite.
How do you feel when you see your wife eating on the floor?
She eats just fine.
- On the floor? - Yes.
What about when your mother-in-law prepares food?
That must be hard for your wife as well.
If I eat vegetables, I gag...
- and my face completely changes. - Really?
I'd rather not gag when my mother-in-law tries to feed me a warp.
So you think that rather than getting to the point of gagging,
- it's more respectful to say it ahead of time? - Right.
When you mother-in-law offers you vegetables,
- how did you tell her no? - Do it for us.
I'll be your mother-in-law.
- Here, eat this. - I don't eat that.
I made it with love. Have some.
No, I don't really like those types of things.
- Have one wrap. - No, that's all right.
When your mother did this for him and he rejected it,
- how did that make you feel? - I got very angry.
I came home and said, "That's my mom, an elder,"
"How can you just flat out turn it down?" Then he said..."
"Isn't it weirder to force someone to eat something they don't eat?"
What does your mother say?
- She says she doesn't want to cook for him. - Of course not.
She would love to make him something to eat.
- You are her mother? - Yes.
- Hello, mother. - Hello.
How did it feel when you offered him food you so lovingly made?
I can't even describe it. On top of that...
when we go over to a relative's home, they make veggie dishes.
He'll just announce that he won't eat any of it.
- Wow. - It's so despicable. Also,
if there's no meat dish,
he goes out to eat on his own.
He'll eat tonkatsu or something and come back.
- It's amazing. - Amazing?
It really is amazing, mother.
I tried and I tried. I'm at the point of giving up.
It must also be hard to see your daughter having lost 10kg.
I'm very sorry for my daughter.
- She really likes fermented bean paste stew, seasoned veggies and such. - So good.
So she comes to our restaurant to eat.
She eats a lot.
- Do you have a restaurant? - Yes.
So when she comes, I make her fried pumpkin and bean paste stew.
She likes stuff like that.
But on the other hand, it must be easy because you can just fry up a sausage.
- Right. - Like, "Whatever, here you go."
When I eat meat, I easily get indigestion or vomit.
That's sort of my physical constitution.
You get indigestion and vomit from meat.
We go to my husband's parent's house twice a week.
- Every week? - Why so often?
- Is it close by? - Yes.
We all live in the same neighborhood.
My father-in-law always takes us to a barbeque place for his son.
- Oh no. - To eat out.
When I was pregnant...
we ate meat at our in-law's one day.
After we ate, I got sick and cried for three to four hours.
I was in so much pain, but my husband couldn't get up because he was drunk.
- When you were so sick and crying? - He must've drank a lot.
So I took the taxi to the hospital and got an IV.
When I got home...
- he said, "Why do you throw up when you eat meat? - He said that?
And since I was losing weight...
he said, "It's because you aren't eating meat. Eat more meat."
How can you tell a person who vomits when they eat something to eat it?
- Do you throw up when you eat veggies? - No.
But you express how much you don't want to eat that.
Shouldn't you at least be somewhat considerate of that?
Yes. I always feel sorry about that.
- You're sorry? - Eating is one thing,
- but I think you lost weight from stress too. - Right.
- Do you eat tofu? - Yes, I eat tofu.
You eat a lot of it?
No. If we buy one block of tofu,
we throw out about two-thirds of it.
- Why do you throw it out? - Can't you put it in the fridge and fry it up later?
I won't eat it like that.
- Why not? - It seems spoiled.
Has that ever happened to you?
- Have you ever gotten food poisoning from spoiled food? - Any trauma?
No, not really.
Since I don't like the sour smell,
anything that goes in and out of the fridge smells sour.
Perhaps because tofu is kept in water.
- So anything that goes in and out of the fridge, he won't eat? - Right.
Everything has to be freshly made.
- Rice and soup also has to be made fresh. - That's got to be tiring.
At night, he always orders and eats roasted chicken.
He eats it at least six times a week.
- That much chicken? - I have to constantly smell that.
If we really can't finish the rest of it, we end up throwing it all out.
That means the cost of delivery food must be quite a lot.
- If he eats chicken six times a week. - In a month...
we spend 1,000 dollars just on the food my husband gets delivered.
- Wow. - Chicken is really expensive these days.
- Right. - It's about 15 dollars.
- Expensive ones cost over 19 dollars. - On the weekends...
- we have to eat all three meals at home. - So you order three chickens?
At night, he orders a chicken to eat with his alcohol.
During the day, he orders tonkatsu or something...
- and something for breakfast. - Stir-fried pork?
- A householder needs to consider their salary and live accordingly. - Right.
- There was a time when we needed shoes for the baby.
- We were minus, so we couldn't buy it. - Because of chicken?
- Yes. - Because he orders too much delivery food.
I didn't know that. I didn't know we couldn't by the baby's shoes.
I found out about that when I got here today.
I just thought we had shoes,
and that we should live eating what we want.
We can't do everything we want to do in life, right?
- Right. - As a family man,
are you not ashamed sometimes?
I am. But when I open the fridge at home and there's nothing to eat,
I feel like I need to order something.
Why is there nothing to eat? There's ham,
other side dishes, and plenty of ingredients.
If I had it last night or this morning,
I'll eat it again if it's made about three days later.
- Do you think most people live like that? - No.
- So you're aware that you're unique. - Yes, I know that it's very wrong of me.
But you're only aware of it.
It's really difficult to cook a different soup every meal.
As his wife, what worries you the most?
My husband gained about 10kg in the past year.
After gaining that much weight, his stomach started hurting.
We went to the emergency room two or three times in the middle of the night.
I keep telling him he should get an endoscopy.
But he keeps saying that he's okay because he's young.
Why don't you drag him to the hospital?
When I do drag him there,
he'll say, "I need to take this quick phone call,"
- and slip away. - He runs away?
He's a trouble maker. He's like a child.
Have you been to the hospital on your own?
- Yes. - What exactly did the doctor say about your state?
He said I have Gastritis and Reflux Esophagitis.
- He told me not to eat much meat or greasy food and to eat more vegetables. - Yes.
So I told him, "I can't because I have vegetable allergies."
But there are times when my face gets red when I eat vegetables.
I get some bumps on my face.
You just need to get an allergy test.
- I do want to go get an allergy test. - Okay.
But if they say I don't really have vegetable allergies,
I'm afraid things will get difficult between us.
- Because it's been verified. - Yes.
Why don't you get an endoscopy? It's easy.
I'm scared.
- See, you're scared too. - He's like a child.
I'm afraid they'll say I have a disease.
Do you think the way you eat is a problem as well?
I do know that my diet is not good.
Do you have no desire to change your diet even when you're so worried?
Not yet.
Maybe it's because I haven't been very ill before.
With people whose diet mainly consists of meat,
- colon cancer is a very common thing. - Right.
Adverse effects of the over-consumption of meat...
includes the increase risk of stroke, heart-disease, and early death.
Are you really going to continue only eating meat?
Yes. I have yet to have problems.
Let's say for instance that you become ill.
At that point, you won't be able to eat anything you want.
Rather than that, you can try including some vegetables in your meals now.
- Wouldn't that be better? - But he knows all of that.
He just isn't choosing to. He knows everything.
He's aware that what he's doing is not good.
What about causing a little shock with some extreme action?
- Have you ever thought of that? - I've tried before.
I had no where else to go but a hotel in front of our house.
So I took our kid and went to the hotel.
When I leave the house like that, come the next day...
he'll call and beg and apologize to make us come home.
He admits and apologizes well because he knows.
Then I we go back home, but nothing changes.
- So I get really stressed. - How is it when your wife and kid leave the house?
I didn't know it was because of my tastes,
but because I got drunk and came home late,
and apparently I lost control of myself a bit.
When I woke up, my wife wasn't there.
Our car was parked in front of a hotel.
So I came to her and said, "I'm sorry. Let's go."
- You did well. - Thanks.
You should be thankful that she didn't change the door lock password.
According to your wife, you apologize right away,
but you return to your behaviors, it's like a cycle.
Why do you not stick to your own words?
Other things like personality...
or smoking too much are what I can change easily.
But a person's taste is hard to change.
- Did you quit smoking? - No.
Your wife is having such a hard time, so have you ever tried...
- to comfort her? - I often express affection.
What do you say? Show us how you do it here.
"I love you."
(The soul already escaped)
Absolutely no feeling in that!
That was really dry.
- How do you feel about that? - When he says that?
I think, "He's trying to get past the day somehow..."
"Not wanting to fight."
You definitely have a sly quality.
How about you save money and run far from him?
She seems so strangely calm!
- I would have... - Is this your solution for the family?
By any chance, did your wife disappoint you in some ways?
Yes, a lot of times!
My wife is easily irritated by really small things.
I'm not lying, I was about to apply for this program.
But somehow hers got accepted first, so...
Irritated by what, for example?
In what kind of situations?
I say, "I'm off to work, honey," she's like "Go away!"
I didn't do anything!
Wait a minute. That is because...
you must have done something before!
I did absolutely nothing.
"Honey, I'm going to work." "Go away!"
It's ridiculous!
It must have been something from the day before!
Why did you get so irritated by your husband, going to work?
The day before, he came home drunk...
and threw tantrum and fell asleep, which is done for him!
What about me? He doesn't remember it.
When he said, "Honey, I'm going,"
I got so angry.
Show us your reaction then, looking at him.
"I'm going to work." "Go then!"
(Irritated)
Yes! Of course, something happened the day before!
But he says there were no reasons for that.
(Why was she irritated?)
Your issues seem serious.
Have you considered professional marriage counseling?
- Have you ever tried it? - We have.
- Really? You went together? - My husband booked for it.
Really? Not you?
Because of her saying, "Go away?"
Yes, well, generally, our relationship...
is really good.
In a good relationship, you say, "Go away?"
From time to time, it happens, so I wanted this family to be healthier.
- Good for you to try that. - So we went and took the counseling.
The doctor told me to drink less...
and my wife to refine her emotions.
I'm drinking much less right now, but she's not refining her emotions.
Hey, your wife is having trouble with your taste, right?
You eating only ham, the doctor didn't say anything about that?
The doctor told me that I should try to eat other things with her.
But, now, to be honest, your taste in food...
is not hard to understand, but I think the problem is...
you asking your wife too much...
asking for different dishes for every meal.
You go out and work hard,
and what would you feel if she says, "Why can't you earn more?"
"You should earn twice as much!"
Let's say your wife asks you, saying, "Make more money! You're a man!"
That would be a terrible wife.
Go away!
(It's what you do)
(Liberated)
He's startled!
(So frightened)
Our child is having developmental issues...
and receiving a language treatment.
It costs quite a lot of money,
while my husband saying,
"What is wrong with eating food I like, bought with my money?"
Then, for the sake of your child...
- how about you cut back on food deliveries? - Yes, I can do that.
Don't just say yes.
- You should take actions! - Yes, I can really cut back.
In front of all these people here, you said yes.
- Can you also be okay with kimchi on the table? - Ah, so frustrating!
- Kimchi? - Or, you could try having food from the refrigerator.
It's such a waste.
Almost everyone in this world...
take food from the fridge and heat it up.
Everyone does that.
That is why the invention of a refrigerator was a big thing for humanity.
Why would you think the food in the fridge has gone bad?
All the food you eat outside must have come out of a fridge.
- Of course. - The food has not gone bad, your mind has.
(Gratified)
I'm not asking for that much.
You are asking for very much right now!
Can't she cook stew for every meal, at least?
Then, what does a fridge mean to you?
It's for keeping food from going bad, you're right.
You say you don't like the food that has been in the fridge,
but if you order fried chicken, they would not...
slaughter a chicken right there or something.
No place would do that.
They fry the chicken stored in the fridge for days, so it's okay.
Then if all the side dishes in the fridge are fried, would you eat those?
If it's cooked differently, I would probably eat it.
So, if it is the same ham, but roasted ham...
or ham brushed with egg wash and roasted...
- appeal to you differently? - Yes, that's right.
Then, how about leftover ham seasoned with red pepper paste...
and stir-fried, would you have it?
What if it's sandwiched between cucumber?
No, I won't eat the cucumber.
How is your wife supposed to cook the dishes every time?
Cucumber is the problem.
Let's vote on this story.
Alex, go on.
I think it is a big issue.
Listening to this, I think it's not about difference in taste...
but more about his role as a breadwinner,
because the money you earn...
is not just for yourself, I think.
It's for your family to spend together.
How about you consider that aspect a little bit more?
I think this is an issue as well.
He should show more actions,
rather than just saying words.
It's like, you hit somebody, and saying you're sorry right after,
and then hit again, and say you're really sorry again.
It's just you heating someone over and over.
If you think it's an issue for our guest, press the button.
(What would be the audience's opinion?)
Five, four,
three, two,
One, stop!
I never thought so many people would press the button against ham.
People were like, "I just can't accept this."
Votes were concentrated at the end.
The husband was saying something, what was it?
Why are so many of them pressing on it?
It's that big of an issue!
Be frank to your wife and only make promises you can keep.
One of my wife's...
favorite is radish dishes, so...
I will try to eat those with you.
You could make them into a new dish,
frying them with egg, to recycle the dishes.
Cooking with the egg would be okay for him.
How many votes did it get? Show us the result!
(Showing result)
The number's getting up, is it 158, 168?
- Or 178? - Are they going to be tied?
- What is it going to be?
It got 148 votes! Wow!
You got a lot of votes, I hope you see some changes!
When you touch it, it bursts.
A woman in her seventies sent this story.
Hello, I'm living with my son, daughter-in-law...
and my grandson, and I'm 73.
I'm busy teaching house chores to my daughter-in-law,
taking care of my grandson.
What is the hardest is...
trying to please my 50-year old son.
He likes it clean too much.
When I'm using the computer,
he says, "Mother, did you wash your hands?"
"Use the computer after washing your hands!"
"Your right hand goes on the mouse..."
"So put on a glove over there!"
I have no idea why he's like that.
"Son, I've taken out all of your things after moving."
"What? Why do you touch my things?"
"How thoughtless of you!"
When your mother in her seventies arranges her son's things,
he cleans each of them with wet wipes!
Even my daughter-in-law, who is from the Philippines, says,
"Mom, my husband is weird."
"He gets angry when I did laundry, saying not to touch his things."
"He gets angry when I touch his cell phone."
"Why did he marry me, then? He's really strange."
Wait a minute. Where on earth is this woman from?
Our family suffers because of my clean-freak son,
trying to not get on his nerves all day.
Is there someone who can fix up my son?
(How can I fix my son's hygiene obsession?)
Anyone from here relates to this story?
Bit of a clean-freak?
- I tend to be like that as well. - Not as bad as this, right?
No, not like this now, but I used to be.
Oh, really?
When my friends came over,
I cooked for them myself, and they did the dishes.
And I watched them washing the dishes from behind.
Later, when they leave, I took down the dishes and redid them.
It was for my own peace.
You could do that, but...
this is being so harsh to his mother.
She is 73 years old,
and applied for the program by herself!
With the gloves on, right?
A seventy-something mother having trouble with her son...
will be out here now! Welcome!
(A mother troubled by her clean-freak son)
(Kim Ryeong-ja)
(Careful, careful)
(Welcome)
Did you applied for the program online by yourself?
Yes, I'm quite good at computers.
I've been working for some time.
When I'm about to use the computer,
"Mom!" my son would yell.
"Mother, use it after washing your hands!"
Then he says, when grabbing the mouse,
I should wear gloves.
With the gloves on, it's hard to operate the mouse and keyboard.
When he uses the computer,
he brings a towel, it's not like a rag or something.
He brings one of the boiled and folded towels, soak it in water,
and cleans the desk, the mouse,
the keyboard, everything.
He does the same thing after he finishes.
Does your son wash his hands frequently?
He washes them so often,
coming out, coming in.
When he drives his car,
in the car trunk,
he keeps two bottles of water,
each bottle filled all the way.
He has to touch the car door when he opens it,
so he opens the door first and washes his hands with the water.
Only after that would he drive.
Then he takes the wheel.
You can't get on his car, right?
Once I asked him to borrow his car,
he gave me a pair of gloves.
"Mom, put on these while driving."
He has been like this since he was young?
He studied for the bar exam for several years,
but kept failing at the second-round test.
So he got intimidated and repressed,
which might have resulted him washing his hands again and again.
Hearing your story, what comes to my mind is...
a typical image of a clean-freak,
skinny, tense, and sensitive.
Right?
He looks quite different from what we thought.
Let's meet her son. Hello!
Hello.
(Hiding his hands right after waving)
He does look like he studied for the bar.
Hey there, son?
You were afraid something might get on your hands?
No, it's not like that.
I'm just a little nervous.
He placed his hands like this,
put them on the ground, got frightened, and made a fist.
He did.
You want to clean your hands later, right?
Yes, I have to.
How many times do you clean your hands a day?
Come to think about it, I clean them for 30 or 40 times a day.
Everything is contaminated.
(Everywhere is contaminated to him)
Is everywhere contaminated?
What I think is clean is the stuff on my desk,
my pen, mouse.
Except for them, other people's stuff...
feels somewhat dirty to me.
So, after contacting with them,
I have to wash my hands, to put my mind at ease.
What if someone offers you a handshake?
When I shake hands with my boss,
I have a spray on my desk at work.
I spray water on my hands to clean them.
Why don't you rather, like you did before,
you hold out your fist like this?
(Greet people in the hip-hop style)
Sir, with your left hand,
you're holding a microphone, how do you feel about it?
- It's already got... - It's got already dirty?
Yes, I feel that way.
What happened is already happened,
so, later, before I go home,
I'm going to have to wash my hands.
You want some wet wipes now?
No, it's already done, so it's okay.
Even so, you feel uncomfortable, right?
It sounds, thump, thump, thump!
(Shaking the whole set, here she comes.)
How many times I told you guys to sanitize the microphones?
This is the first time I clean microphones...
in six years here.
Give me your hands, both of them!
(Considerate customer service)
You are holding the microphone with your hand right now!
(Dear me!)
Wrap the wipe around the microphone!
- Yes, like that. - You know, in my opinion...
he wouldn't like that, he has his own standards.
He should clean it himself.
(Cleaning his surroundings)
He seems afraid of you, come back here fast.
Yes, all right, I'm coming. He's scared.
(Thank you)
According to what she said,
he's been like this since the bar exam.
Do you think your behaviors changed from that period?
I think it started from when I was young,
maybe from junior-high.
I used to clean all my pens before I studied.
You cleaned all of your pens?
Like a ritual for your concentration?
And at the side of the desk,
I put a basin filled with water...
and washed my hands if they get a little sticky.
When people get old,
they become less sensitive, I've heard.
For me, it got worse than when I was young.
It's also hard for me to deal with myself.
How was it in the military?
- I'm curious. - In the military,
the situations are inevitable.
So I just forgave and accepted the situations.
You could have changed after that.
No, it wasn't like that.
I returned to my old habits, which became worse.
You said you put up with it in the military.
Then, isn't it possible to endure things with your will power?
When I came out to the society,
I didn't have to be walk on eggshells like then.
Most of all, I get nervous,
and feel stressed,
so I can't do anything else than cleaning.
Listening to his story,
I thought of this thing I do, which I haven't realized.
I have an alcohol spray at home.
(Is Alex also a clean-freak?)
Where do you spray alcohol?
Slippers worn by me or guests.
- Slippers worn by others. - Yes.
- Before cleaning the floor, usually...
people spray water on it or clean it with a damp cloth.
I spray alcohol on the floor to clean it.
Does it bother you when someone touches you like this?
No, it doesn't.
You wash your body, though.
- Does it bother you? - Yes, it does.
- He's not improved. - It's a different kind of bothering.
What are you talking about?
Rather than being dirty and untidy,
isn't being clean nicer?
It's too much.
What's strange is, when it's hot in the summer, like this summer,
it would be nice to wash his body, at least the upper part,
but he doesn't take a shower.
(What's this now?)
- Even when he came home at night? - No, he doesn't.
- He comes home really late. - What?
It must feel really uncomfortable!
He thinks the revealed part gets contaminated?
You think this part of your body is kept clean?
(Clean area)
Contaminants doesn't contact with that part,
but with my hands or my clothes.
When contaminated, I just wash my clothes,
and my hands.
That part is covered by the clothes.
So it's enough to wash it once a week.
Once a week?
See, we thought it was just the hygiene issue,
- but there's more to that. - What about sweat?
Even when I sweat, I wash my face, hair, and hands.
You think it's different from contacting with other people, right?
- You're okay with your own sweat? - To make your son take a shower,
you should touch his body!
To where does she have to touch, then?
(I see)
He only washes the touched part.
When you use the toilet, you sit on it, right?
- You don't sit on it, do you? - No, I sit,
after cleaning it with a towel and water.
- It's okay for me then. - You think it's sanitized.
Do you clean the house by yourself?
The entire house?
Before I got married,
I had my own room.
I locked my room whenever I go out.
When I'm gone,
I was afraid my mom would clean or touch things.
But now, we all live together,
so my mother or my wife cleans the house,
but I ask them to not touch my stuff, my cell phone or my books.
He only cleans his own things.
My son even does his own laundry separately.
We cannot do his laundry, ever.
If other clothes are mixed with his, he takes them out,
and he does the laundry again.
What doesn't make sense is,
do you clean the washing machine before using it?
The washing machine is sanitized with the detergent coming out,
- so it's okay. - If it's sanitized, why do your laundry separately?
It's all sanitized together.
I can take washing clothes together,
but when putting them away,
they put the clothes on the living room floor to fold them,
and hang out on the drying rack.
When freshly washed clothes contact with the floor or the rack,
it becomes meaningless to wash clothes!
(How have my son become like that?)
There's a window behind the drying rack.
The strong wind blows through it in the summer, it's very refreshing.
I wanted to open the window,
but he taped on the window,
saying, "Mom, don't open the window."
"The laundry gets dust on them."
But it was so hot this summer,
I told my daughter-in-law, "Let's open the window while he's not here."
We removed the tape he put on and opened the window.
Then cool wind rushes in,
which was so refreshing.
(Feels refreshing just hearing it)
It's like the air conditioner commercial.
We were supposed to close the window and tape it back,
but we forgot.
Then I went out to have meal with my daughter-in-law and my grandson.
- We went out together. - You went out with the window opened.
While we were having a lunch, my son called me.
He sounded dead serious when he said...
"Mom!"
"Why did you open the window when I told you not to?"
I was startled.
My face turned deadly pale.
I know all too well that it was not right to get angry with...
- my mother for such things. But I can't help it. - He's having a hard time too.
When I got back home and found the window opened,
I couldn't think of anything else.
I was just so infuriated that somebody touched my stuff.
I couldn't suppress my anger.
I lose my temper when such things happen, and if it's repeated...
I get really annoyed.
If my parents are a bit more cooperative with me,
it's not a big deal. It's all about her cooperation.
- But isn't he married? He even has children. - Yes.
What about your wife and children?
Do you wash your hands after holding their hands?
What matters is what I'm going to do...
after holding their hands.
For instance, I would have physical contacts with my wife or play with children and...
have a meal or stay at home. Then it doesn't matter.
But if my phone rings after...
playing with my children,
I have to wash my hands in the bathroom.
- Before you answer the phone? - But wouldn't you miss the call?
- Yes, I do miss some calls. - Right.
- Then he has to return the missed calls. - Yes, sure.
I need to call them back.
I think it's his wife sitting next to him. Can you hear from her too?
- Hello. - Hello.
(It's her daughter in-law.)
- How long have you been in Korea? - It's been six years.
- Her Korean pronunciation is very good. - Have you every been scolded after touching your husband's laundry?
Yes, he doesn't allow me to touch his laundry.
- He doesn't. - I have to do the laundry separately, which is very uncomfortable.
Are they anything else that your husband doesn't allow you to touch?
- Yes, he doesn't let me touch his cell phone. - His mobile phone.
Does he say sorry for that?
- No, he doesn't. - Instead, he got angry with it.
What has hurt you the most?
When I gave birth to the child. When was it?
When you gave birth to your child?
Did he feel uneasy even when he took care of his own children?
Do you feel bad when he washes his hands too often even when he's with the children?
- Yes, I do. - No wonder she'd feel bad.
I tried to seek her understanding.
This is what I am and I used to be like this even before I got married with her.
I've lived like this for decades.
I tried to fix it, but it's a disease.
- I asked her to understand me. - Okay.
Maybe she's kind of given up on me, or threw up her hands by now.
You just said it's a disease and sort of pathological.
- He admits it. - Haven't you ever..
tried to go see a counselor or doctor?
Once I went to...
- see a psychiatrist. - Yes.
After counseling and some tests,
they prescribed me some drugs.
Taking the medicine doesn't work at all and it only made me sleepy.
- He got sleepy. - He was so sleepy when he has to wash.
That might have worsened the situation.
At that time, I thought it wouldn't help me at all.
- Since then, I haven't visited any psychiatrist. - I see.
Personally, I do...
understand what he feels.
Don't you feel that you don't have enough space of your own?
I used to have that feeling quite often.
That's why I felt uncomfortable...
when my personal space is encroached by other people.
I fixed it now, and let me tell you how I did it.
I tried to gradually reduce my personal space.
- You cut down on your space. - When friends came over,
I let them freely use at least the living room.
That's how I fixed that habit. Now the only personal space I have is my car.
- Is it your car now? - I clean up my car with cotton swabs.
Do you clean your car with cotton swabs?
- It will take years. - I sincerely empathize with what Alex just told me.
In my house, the only personal space I have is...
a dresser where I put my belongings,
and laundry rack where I dry my clothes.
That's all I've got in the house.
What I want from my family is...
- not to encroach on my personal space, however small it is. - I see.
Then I wouldn't have to get angry with my mother and wife that often.
- That would be okay. - Sir,
that's doesn't make sense.
You said your personal space is limited to a dresser and laundry rack,
but actually you have a strong control over the entire house.
You mother mentioned the window. Opening the window...
is something you must not ban. If they can't open the window in summer, they will die of the heat.
- That's not your personal space, right? - But there were other windows as well.
That's where the wind blows.
You think you don't have enough space,
but you're using the entire space for the family.
Practically you're dominating the whole family.
You mentioned "my house" and "my personal space."
But that's not true. You should've said "our house" instead.
(Our house it is.)
So we had talks with some experts.
You need to gradually allow others to tough your belongings,
and touch other people's stuff as well.
That way, you can learn that doesn't harm you...
and it's not a big deal.
Try it in phases and you can fix it.
I understand there might be things you can't give up.
What about...
starting with your cell phone, by allowing your wife, mom, and children to touch it?
That doesn't wreck a havoc on you. Can you try that?
I won't get mad at them.
I won't hurt their feelings in their face. However,
once I get back to my room,
- I would clean it up with wipes. - That's okay.
- It's fine. - Okay.
- Instead of directly letting out your anger on your family, - Yes.
just say "thank you" and go to your room.
- All right. - Why don't you try it right now with your wife?
- Do you have your phone with you? - Please hand it to your wife.
- Wait. - He's trying it.
She seems so happy.
- Wait. - He's trying it.
She seems so happy.
His wife seems so happy as if he's giving her a diamond ring.
She looks so happy right now.
- It seems she's a bit excited. - Exactly. Did you see?
- Haven't you ever touched your husband's cell phone? - No, I haven't.
- She hasn't. - Now give her your cell phone saying "I love you."
Say "I love you" when you give it to her.
- I love you. - Oh my.
Don't be too bold when you touch it.
- No, she has to. - Wait, now...
the husband's hand shows how uneasy he feels.
- He wants to get it back quickly. - Right.
Try not to clean it the phone now.
- Today. - Well...
(Just thinking of it makes him feel bad.)
Because even if you don't clean it up, you won't face any problem.
- True. - You have to go through it at least once.
That way you can overcome it and learn from the experience.
To be honest,
in my early 30s,
I had a phobia against all living animals...
other than human beings.
I hated myself with that strange phobia,
so I decided to do things I hated the most.
I started to raise a puppy at home.
- It's true. - Did you do it on purpose?
At first, I was so scared of it that my hands were shaky when I had to touch it.
After one or two months, I found myself heavily relying on that animal.
- I see. - What I'm trying to say is...
we shouldn't lock ourselves in our own stereotype.
Please try thinking from a different perspective.
You might have been fooled by yourself.
What do you want to do with your son?
He doesn't talk much to me.
- You want to talk with him. - Yes, I want to talk with him often.
What do you want to do with your husband?
I want to talk with him a lot, too.
You want to talk with him, and anything else?
His son, Young-cheol miss him.
- It's his son. - I miss him a lot too.
- You want to spend good time together with him. - Right.
From now on, I'll try to spare my time...
to talk with my wife and mother as much as I can.
- Yes, you should. It's been six years since your wife came to Korea. - Yes.
After six years, others would've been...
much more fluent in Korean than her.
- I see. - Seeing your wife not so good at Korean language,
- I thought you must not have much conversation with your wife. - She's right.
- She can learn Korean while talking with you. - True.
Let's start Guest Votes with Horan.
It seems he's having a hard time because of it and really desperate to change himself...
who can't get rid of this bad habit.
I believe he's so sincere with this issue.
He is well aware of his problem and determined to change himself.
I do wish he'd find happiness on his own will.
So I don't think it's an issue for him.
Not it's Alex. Let's skip his turn.
(He's going to take side with the son, definitely.)
- Do you think it's an issue? - Yes, I think it is.
While listening to their story,
I thought that this issue can't be resolved through personal efforts only.
- There are doctors who'll go well with you. - Yes.
I hope he can meet a good doctor.
As to medicine, there must be something that really fits him.
He can try such treatment as well.
Hence I think it's an issue.
It's an issue from the mother's perspective.
She's not saying her son's being picky and obsessive with cleaning...
is making her life difficult. It's nothing like that.
That's not why she sent us this story.
What she wants is...
her son's happiness by changing himself.
The son himself is having a hard time.
That hurts her the most.
If you think it's an issue for our guest,
press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
Five, four...
three, two...
one. Time's up!
Any word to say to your mother?
Well, mom.
I...
It's because he's not used to talking with his mom. He's stammering when he says mom.
The window he has to open is a window of dialogue.
He has to open that window.
A window of dialogue.
Until now,
I have hurt your feelings so much.
Though I couldn't tell you,
I always...
have felt sorry for you.
Now that I understand what you really have in your mind,
I'll first try to control my temper, not to let my anger out on you.
I'll change my behavior step by step.
If there's any professional support or treatment I can get, I'll use them too.
- He has a strong will. - I'll try that way.
Why don't you say something to you wife as well? She looks so lonely.
What Young-ja just told me...
was right on the mark.
People would think I'm your wife. Talk to your wife, not me.
Speak slowly. Say how much you love her.
(Awkward)
- Yeon-ah. - Say her name.
(Yeon...)
(Yeon-ah)
He's so shy.
Oh my, he is really shy.
- Go ahead. - Say you like her.
- As usual. - I'm just...
You have to say that to your wife.
(Tell your wife.)
Yeon-ah, I got married with you at a late age.
For getting married with me,
I'm very grateful.
Also, though I don't say it that often,
ever since I got married with you,
I've passed the public official exam...
and we had our son, Young-cheol.
Many good things happened after we got married.
What about your love? How much do you love her?
In the future,
I'll try to express my love toward you as often as I can.
- Give her a hug. - Sorry for my deeds so far.
- Say you love her and give her a hug. - Hug her.
I love you.
(Honey, I love you.)
Lastly, you should tell her she can use your phone as much as she wants.
Tell you she can use your phone as much as she wants.
- Do it slowly. Otherwise, she'll get too nervous. - Look, he's taking it out.
(He takes his phone out of his pocket.)
Don't put it back in your pocket.
(A show of love that's stronger than words.)
(I'm going to entrust you with my phone from my on.)
I've never seen anything like this.
You keep putting your hand...
- near the phone. - You should hold your husband's hand.
- Hands. - You should hold each other's hands.
- Good. - That's better.
Now,
- the number of votes you get isn't what's important. - True.
From today forward,
- we hope you become a happier couple. - Really.
Please show us the results.
(Here are the results.)
Will they get over 100 votes? It's over 100 votes.
(Will his courageous transformation...)
(grant him the winner's seat?)
(What will the results show?)
We have 101 points.
(Staying in the race)
(Eliminated)
- You did so well. - You can go sit with your son.
Thank you for taking the courage for your mother.
I'm going to report you if you let go of your wife's hand.
The title of the next story is "bizarre Behavior."
Here is the story.
"Hello, I'm the wife of a handsome man, seven years my junior."
"People always tell me..."
"You've got quite the skills. You're so blessed."
"What's it like living with a young husband? What do you think?
"He drives me crazy with all his shenanigans."
"Every night, my husband..."
- "quietly leaves the house." - What's that about?
"Your going out again? Where are you running off to all the time?"
"Are you cheating on me?" "Of course, not."
"I'll be back."
- "He seemed so suspicious that one day, I followed him." - She followed him.
"I saw my husband enter a bathroom in a secluded building."
(My goodness...)
(What kind of sound is that?)
You're exaggerating!
"I saw my husband's clothes were hanging on the bathroom door."
"My husband's clothes were hanging on the bathroom door."
What?
(Knock, knock)
"What are you doing in there?"
"What are you doing here? Stop knocking!"
"I'm taking a dump."
"Everyday, my husband goes to the public bathroom to take a dump."
"What's even more baffling..."
"is that he always..."
"looks for a stall..."
- "with a squat toilet." - The ones that look like a rubber shoe.
"It's 1am. Why are you so late?"
"I couldn't find the toilet I was looking for."
"I went to the bathroom near our old place."
"I tried hard to understand, but I just can't wrap my head around it."
"What is wrong with him?"
"You don't think..."
"he could be fooling around instead, right?"
(What is the real reason why he's leaving at night?)
The problem is that he always goes out to take a dump at night.
What's funny is that he can't go...
unless he's using a squatter toilet.
- It's that kind of toilet, right? - Yes.
I think it was introduced from the Netherlands.
That's why it's called the "hwa" toilet.
I see.
- I can understand why she would be worried. - Right.
It's not like she can follow him...
- every time he leaves at night. - That's true.
- I think it would be bothersome. - Now,
let's meet the wife of the man...
who's wandering the city in search of the squat toilet.
Please come out to the stage!
(Let's meet the wife behind the story of the "Bizarre Behavior.")
(Heo Eun-ok)
- Before, there was a wife who didn't let her husband take a dump at home. - True.
- I remember that. - So, the husband could only use public bathrooms.
Have you heard of that story?
My husband is so much worse than that.
He can only do his business when he's squatting,
so even though there's a public washroom near our house,
he would walk for about 5, 6 stops,
- which is about a 20 minute walk to find a toilet. - That's brutal.
- He walks? - Yes, he walks.
What if it's urgent?
- He would leave as soon as he gets a signal. - In advance...
- He would take the walk. - Did you ask him why he only uses the squat toilet?
He normally likes the squatting position.
- At home? - Yes.
You're saying he sits like this at home?
- Yes. - It's not easy for men to stay in that position.
- When does he sit like this? - Even when he eats,
- When you eat? - Even when we eat, he would get squat on the chair...
- He would get on top of that? - Right, he would squat on top of the chair and eat.
(That's so strange.)
Did you really follow your husband?
He would always leave the house at night.
I thought it was strange, so after I had my first child...
I decided to follow him.
However, as I was following him,
he kept going into motel areas.
He kept going into motel areas.
(Surprised!)
- Yes. - The toilets must have been there.
I felt like my heart was about to burst.
I was trembling so much.
Then, I saw him go into a public bathroom inside a motel.
When I went into the bathroom,
I saw his clothes hanging on the bathroom door.
- His clothes were hung over the door? - Right, I could see them over the door.
- I saw his pants and his shirt. - The pants were...
- Even his shirt? - Yes.
Does that mean he got naked to take a dump?
I suspected all sorts of things.
I thought he could be doing something else in the bathroom.
- Something that Dong-yeob might be thinking of? - Right.
(Various suspicions)
(What?)
When I banged on the door and asked what he's doing,
he said he's taking a dump.
- Imagine how surprised he must have been. - Right.
- To have your wife... - He had walked 20 minutes to find a bathroom...
- and to have his wife banging on the bathroom door... - In a motel area at that...
- In front of a weird toilet... - I couldn't even imagine it.
I was so dumbfounded and baffled when I left the stall.
You should have taken his pants with you.
In a way,
you could just accept it as your husband having a strange habit.
When he comes home from work, he's often late.
He already comes home late.
When he comes home, he would change is clothes...
and leave the house right away to go to the bathroom.
It's hard for me to see him...
and the kids don't get to spend time with him.
The kids wait for him all day...
and he just leaves them right away.
How long does he take when he goes out?
He takes more than an hour.
- You'd have to consider the walking time. - The walk back and forth would take 40.
I think it takes about 1 to 2 hours.
- In that time... - I don't understand
Normally, taking a dump in that position doesn't take long.
- It makes for a very relieving dump. - Right.
Even for me, those toilets are really effective.
They really do make it easier.
However, sitting for a long time over a squatter toilet is the worst.
It's the worst. You have to pull yourself up by the pole.
- That's true. - You could end up squatting right into the center.
(You may not be able to get up by yourself.)
This is how you have to get up.
In any case, let's meet the husband and ask him why he does that.
Where is the husband?
(Here is the husband who spends his nights searching for a squat toilet.)
- Do you really only use toilets outside the house? - Do you only use squat toilets?
Yes.
Why?
It's more comfortable.
- The position couldn't be that comfortable. - It's actually quite comfortable.
It is?
I hear you enjoy sitting in that position at home. Is it comfortable for you?
In the winter when it's cold,
- we often sit in this position. - You look so comfortable sitting like that.
- I'd lock my arms over my knees. - It's like some kind of magic trick.
It's a habit of mine since childhood.
- How could his legs do that? - When I'm at home or eating...
or watching television, I find the squatting position very comfortable.
For most of us, the position is very uncomfortable.
- I find it more comfortable than sitting with my legs crossed. - It's better?
- Yes. - Can you do it one more time? It's so fascinating.
- I don't want to. - He said no.
Wow, he's charming.
That position would still have your butt resting on the floor.
I can understand that much, but...
isn't it different when you're on the toilet?
I do the same even when I'm at home.
- Do you shift your weight forward? - Yes.
- I see. - Doesn't it hurt your legs?
It's not as painful as sitting cross-legged.
How long can you sit in that position?
If I'm watching a movie at home, I'd stay in that position for the entire movie.
- Wow. - You’re saying that you'd sit like that from start to finish?
- Yes. - It must be bad for your knees.
Where are all the hot squat toilets these days?
Which area is it in?
Where do you go to use the toilet?
Do I really have to say it?
- Not if you don't want to. - When...
did you start hating me?
No, it's not that.
It's a secret place he wants to keep to himself.
Why do you prefer it there?
It's really comfortable.
It's clean and tidy.
- It was recognized by the city as a clean bathroom. - It's really clean.
Why do you take off your clothes?
I always relieve myself right before I take a shower, so...
I made a habit out of taking off my clothes before going to the bathroom.
- That's why I find it really uncomfortable. - Wait.
Does that mean you sometimes relieve yourself at home?
I used to.
- You used to. - I see.
- Back then, did you have a squatter toilet at home? - He must have had one.
Yes, because I lived in the country.
- I see. - You must have been acclimated to that kind of toilet...
- since you were young. - Yes, it's a habit I've had since childhood.
You caused your wife to doubt you to the point of following you.
What do you think about that?
Because it seems like something anyone would doubt.
I don't really understand it.
But you go out for like an hour or two.
Are you really only going to the bathroom?
Or do you perhaps stop by the convenience store for a beer on your own?
Is it because you need alone time?
As I walk, I smoke a cigarette and think.
Those things probably contribute to it. This and that.
But your kids are waiting at home.
Don't you think about that?
- I play with them at home. - When?
- On the weekends. - The weekends?
- Cigarettes are good when you squat and smoke them. - Right.
(We do understand the husband too.)
Right? Isn't it?
How many cigarettes do you smoke squatting?
- About three to four. - Really?
So has there never been a time...
when you husband pooped at home?
I've seen it before.
I have seen it before.
Maybe he was in a hurry, but he went in without locking the door.
Without knowing, I opened the door because I had to go.
He was squatting on top of the toilet.
Really?
(That's embarrassing.)
We made eye contact and he got really mad.
Your eyes must've been level.
That's because there's a difference between...
making eye contact sitting like this and squatting.
It would be humiliating.
He thought he had locked the door.
Afterward, when I was trying to sleep...
- It must've been shocking. - I wondered if he was a weird person.
It was the beginning of our marriage.
I was scared I married a weirdo.
There was a time I couldn't sleep well.
- Because of that? - Yes.
- Also, his clothes were... - He was naked too.
Why did you poop at home that day when you don't do that?
There are emergencies sometimes.
Yeah! There are emergencies.
If he really can't, why not put a squat toilet in your home?
- Even if we put a squat toilet in the house... - He would go out?
I think he'd go out. I think it's an excuse for him.
- How? - I had to get a C-section for our first child.
I needed to give him a bath.
I asked him for help, but he ran out saying he had an emergency.
Also, I told him I was craving chicken feet when I was pregnant.
I asked him to buy me some.
He ran out saying it was an emergency.
- It must've been frustrating. - It's become an easy excuse.
Since he does that, of course I think that it's an excuse.
He's using that as an excuse to go out.
- That's what I think. - What do you think?
That's not it.
- Yes it is. - He's so calm.
Then what is it? Explain yourself.
You're so calm about it.
Kids tend to...
think and talk exactly as they see things.
Does your dad go out to the bathroom everyday?
There are times he doesn't, every now and then.
Every now and then he doesn't.
About once a year.
- About once a year. - Once a year!
That's everyday.
Is there anything else that your husband is attached to...
other than his restroom habits?
My husband's hair.
- He's very attentive to his hair. - Hair?
His hair style.
He has to maintain that exact style.
He doesn't like it being touched or messed up.
That's his style so that's understandable.
Even when the kids play with him...
and they touch it accidentally, he'll get angry.
Like, "You messed up dad's hair!"
- He's really like that. - Wow.
Isn't it time to reveal your wig to your family?
(Reveal your secret now.)
He also has a specific way that he needs the blanket and pillow when he sleeps.
He has a specific way that he needs it to be. You can't mess with it.
What do you mean a specific way with the blanket?
- The bed? - His posture.
- Himself. - Yes, his specific posture.
Once he lies down and gets established,
no matter how much I ask him to help me with something,
he won't get up.
He says it's hard to get back if it's messed up.
- So once, he lies down, he won't get up? - He won't.
- That makes me disappointed and angry. - That's odd.
Is it weird if that gets messed up?
Yes, it's a little uncomfortable.
It can't be the same everyday. Like, "Left side 37cm, right side 41cm."
You can't do that
I'm very curious. Can you show us how you lie down?
I can't because there's no blanket.
You need the blanket to get your posture right.
Like putting it between your legs or something.
Like, it's hard to explain.
When my feet go up, the blanket will be on my legs.
I need my toes to slightly be out.
Stuff like that.
- He's got his comfortable posture. - You can't touch him.
- Really? - Yes.
He gets mad.
It seems like your wife is quite hurt and has a lot piled on,
but you seem to be wondering why you came all the way out here for this.
Your expression suggests that you don't understand her difficulty.
Yes, I do kind of feel like that.
In all honesty,
there's probably more here that pains her for her to contact us.
When were you the most disappointed?
For many reasons, I fell into depression.
It was quite a severe depression.
I told my husband that I think it's pretty severe.
He said, "Depression..."
"only happens to idle people."
That only people with nothing to do get it.
You're depressed because you have nothing to do right now.
That's why. Don't make it a big deal.
In other words, it's because you're full.
Why did you respond in that way?
In my opinion,
depression is caused by thinking too much about this or that.
That's where I think depression comes from.
If you were really busy,
whether it be with kids, family, or housework,
and really work hard...
There must've been a cause for you to think like that.
I...
- I broke the bones in my lower spine. - What?
I had to spend a few months in the hospital.
- After you had your baby? - Yes.
Also, there was a miscarriage with my third baby.
Due to that surgery,
I had to spend time apart.
He said, "Hey, you're fortunate."
That's what he said.
When I broke my spine, I was hospitalized for a few months.
He said, "Your face is nice and shiny. You're fortunate."
I was so hurt by that. I was sick.
- Exactly. - How can you say such a thing?
No, you're misunderstanding.
- It was a joke. - Everybody up their says that.
(The husbands today are all misunderstood.)
When she was at home doing chores,
her face looked really dry.
After spending a couple months in the hospital, her face was glowing.
And she looked pretty.
So I said that as a joke.
- Because she was pretty? - Yes.
Yes. I didn't think that would cause her so much pain.
He was going like this to me.
- Why are you saying that to me? - What did he say?
As soon as I got home he said, "Your face is so shiny."
Why are you saying that to me?
You say it was as a compliment, but she seems very hurt by it.
After I said that,
- there's something I told her. - What?
It's something that Dong-yeob is good at saying.
What?
What do you think he said?
I told her that we should have a third child.
That's how pretty she looked.
Well the fact is your wife was in the hospital...
from a spinal injury.
You should say, "Honey, are you okay? Do you feel better?"
Once she feels a bit better, then you can joke.
Or, "I'm sorry to say this,"
"but you look pretty even like this."
- Yeah. - That's how you could have done.
- I like that. - Right?
So because of things like that, you've become depressed...
and started thinking negatively?
Also, the kids...
keep looking for their dad.
When he comes home, it's late.
- What time? - He come home late; past midnight.
- He comes past midnight? - He comes after using the bathroom?
- He must've used it. - He goes back out.
What disappoints me more is when I was pregnant.
I would tell him that I want something to eat and he wouldn't go out.
- But he goes out for his. - He says, "Don't eat so late."
Then he goes out for his business late at night.
Don't you think that's a bit cold?
- How you made your wife lonely? - Yes, I am sorry.
When we had our second child, I got her everything she wanted.
Why are you laughing?
Because he's talking like he was really good to me when he wasn't.
(Refreshing)
Is your husband always like that?
He seems like a robot to be honest.
It's like there's no emotion like, "Yes, that's right."
(Even if his wife says how difficult and concerned she is...)
(he seems like he's got no change in emotion.)
- He's extremely calm. - Does he ever get excited?
When does he get excited?
Never?
- He must be exhausted. - That's just him.
Do you run around screaming when you're out?
(Does he only explode with adrenaline in the bathroom?)
That's why he has to go to the bathroom.
Yeah, he runs there.
(Excited)
As his wife, you are passionately confessing,
and your husband sits there like, "Okay. No."
Doesn't it make you go crazier? How is it?
If something is a little bit off or messed up to him,
he's very short-tempered.
- He'll scream. - This isn't it.
He's not able to really express happiness,
- but can express anger. - There's no middle-ground.
He's really good at getting mad.
To the point of being scary?
I mean, honestly...
I don't know what it is.
Do you have any stress...
that causes you to have to go out...
in order to feel comfortable and de-stress?
The work I do is relatively very stressful.
I work in customer management.
I'm in middle-management.
I have people above me pressuring me,
and companies we work with pressuring me.
On busy days, I have to take over a hundred phone calls.
When I go home, I'm totally drained of energy.
That's why...
I go outside and smoke cigarettes and think.
Those one or two hours when...
you can keep your mouth shut and be alone must be very valuable to you.
That's right. On weekdays,
there's only about one or two days I can come home early.
That's why time is probably more valuable...
- and it has become like that. - Right.
In that sense,
it would be nice if you could understand him a little.
How would you like your husband to change.
Whenever I tell my husband that I want to do something with him,
he says he has to go to the bathroom.
- That's crazy. - The flow keeps getting stopped.
- This is ridiculous. - He's got the ultimate weapon with him.
It's hard to say anything when someone says they're going to the bathroom.
Yes. It's fine that he has to go to the bathroom.
Go handle business, but it just takes so long.
It takes so long, he can't do anything else.
It's all formed like a pyramid.
Just because of that one thing, we fight and it spreads.
Can you express your request specifically?
Don't get angry.
While you're playing with the kids and you have to go,
don't get mad at them because you have to go.
Don't get mad at the kids.
I wish you would sincerely play with them.
When you go out, don't be mad. Just say,
"I'm going to poop."
"Hey kids, dad's got to go poop."
- When you go out, come back with chicken feet. - Yeah.
- Bring home some good food. - With sense.
Come home before the kids sleep.
- There's nothing we can say. - Yeah.
To me, this is definitely an issue.
There needs to be a compromise between you two.
And at least for the kids,
it would be nice to you try a little harder to make your family happier.
I saw this product on the internet.
It's...
for people who are used to squat toilets.
It's for people who are used to that posture...
and will help them use a sitting toilet.
It's a foot rest.
For the position.
- I think it's something you can try. - You both need to try.
So to me, it's not an issue. I think there's still hope.
To me, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
There are much more problems under this.
I don't think you know. I think that's the bigger problem.
So I say this is an issue.
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Would the husband like to say something to his wife?
Although it's been over 11 years since we've been married,
I still remember the way you looked when I first saw you.
I'll always only love you.
I'm always working hard thinking of you and our children.
Don't worry too much.
(Don't worry too much.)
Just know one thing.
I feel the same way now as I did in the beginning.
- Express it to her. - I love you.
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